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Topic: Rd 1 GSP red auto on BMMAC
Posted By: crashingwaves
Subject: Rd 1 GSP red auto on BMMAC
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 12:48pm
Good day BMMAC folk,
 
This morning, a new member listed a rd 1 GSP red auto in the products for sale section of the BMMAC website.  The sellers name is 'johnrobertfletcher'.....he is new to the site and has not posted yet.
 
I am a bit concerned as he listed the card for only $500....which is a steal and the pictures he provides show that the card appears in good shape.  However, since he is new, with no feedback, I am a bit concerned about doing a transaction with him as he is unknown.
 
Anyone know this seller or can provide feedback?   Any suggestions on how to do a transaction where both parties are protected from fraud etc?
 
Thx
 
 


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Posted By: rolinger
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:27pm
He signed up last week and asked if it was ok if he accepted Money orders or personal checks since he didn't have a paypal.   I said NO.    He then listed about 12 items without letting me know that he set up a Paypal, so instead of having peoples payments go to an unclaimed paypal, I deleted his items, then the next morning woke up to hear how big of a jerk I was and that he would tell people how bad I run the site.  
At this point, I just wanted to kick his ass, but looks like he's back to listing.     I don't like this guy so far and will advise people not to buy from him until he sets up his feedback with a link to a ebay account with 100% feedback with multiple transactions.   



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Posted By: judojitsu
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:30pm
sounds shady, i think if he had a valid activeebay account he should know he could got alot more for it on there.  selling here could help him avoid alot of ebay buyer claim hassle.

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Posted By: crashingwaves
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:37pm
Thanks for the feedback...much appreciated
 
I agree, things seem fishy.....those are some sweet cards he is selling...almost too sweet for him to have flown under the radar in this small mma card world.
 
Anyone know where he is from....Canada or US etc?
 
I did put an offer on a card...as the price was beyond believable...though I will not complete the transaction with out some sort of puchase security in place.
 


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Posted By: jirovec
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:39pm
I would not buy from anyone who is new with no feedback.  Amazing deal from a newbie usually means bad things for a buyer.  Tell him to list it on ebay to protect yourself.  Odds are he won't.


Posted By: twoten01
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:46pm
If he was even semi legit, I would have thought he would have posted in here by now.

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Posted By: rolinger
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:48pm
He said Southpark from youtube directed him to the site.

I won't let him list until he establishes some good deals.

I told him to get on the forum, set up his feedback, log all the trades, and get established, because I don't trust new guys without track records.   

So if you deal with him, do it in a secure way.    PAYPAL ONLY, and log it in the forum.     Make sure  tracking is included in your deal.   

I'm willing to let someone get established, but I'd proceed with extreme caution.  


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Posted By: crashingwaves
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:08pm
Damn Rolinger...you kick ass.   
 
Thanks for setting up a great place for MMA card trading.  Your efforts at moderating this site are much appreciated!
 
Will let you know how the deal goes (if one actually takes place)....FYI - it was for a rd 1 GSP red auto....for $400!


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Posted By: NickBaragona
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:38pm
did somebody pick up that gsp red auto yet?


Posted By: the chip guy
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:46pm

Ban this guy already Rollie... He should be kissing your ass not telling what a jerk you are for wanting him to follow the rules....( I know I have broke a couple..lol) Guy's, don't let the possibility of good cards for cheap blind you!!!



Posted By: rolinger
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:50pm
He's fine and is starting to do  things the right way.     Most people have a consumers mentality and think they can have it their way.   He's already apologized and asking what he should do next, so it's just that little attitude adjustment that needed to happen.

No need to ban him since he's trying to take my advice now.     He's not a bad guy and we just started off  on the wrong foot.   Which is easy if you get on and try to tell me how it's going to be.


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Posted By: crashingwaves
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:59pm
I also spoke with him a bit more as well.....seems like a nice guy who just needs to sell some cards fast cause he is getting married.  Congrats!
 
And for those wondering....I do plan on buying the rd 1 gsp red auto from him...just working out the details.
 
I will post feedback for him once the deal is done (assuming a feedback and trade thread is started)
 
Thanks all for the feedback


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Posted By: the chip guy
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 3:00pm
lol!... nice to hear that he apologized and is trying to do things the right way.


Posted By: NickBaragona
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 3:02pm
Oh, so the GSP auto is gone now. Now I hope he loses to Shields lol.


Posted By: crashingwaves
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 3:30pm
Well Nick....perhaps we need to wager on this fight closer to fight time.
 
GSP for me!


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Posted By: hawaiimma
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by NickBaragona

Oh, so the GSP auto is gone now. Now I hope he loses to Shields lol.


2nd rnd RNC by shieldsClap

but back on suject, even if he needed to move cards fast he could still move it on ebay for a little more just as fast and if he wants cash in hand im sure a LCS would be happy to pay him 500 cash for it....

still seems fishy to me. Im just saying thats all.


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Posted By: lesnar_fan
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:23pm
now im just waiting on the thread to start up on how someone on here back doored the  red GSP deal and offered the seller more $$$ for it ................

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Posted By: judojitsu
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:39pm
$400 is a stupid low price, be ready to file a claim if you dont see the card in 10 days.

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Posted By: hawaiimma
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by judojitsu

$400 is a stupid low price, be ready to file a claim if you dont see the card in 10 days.


word!!!!!


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Posted By: jirovec
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:51pm
There are RED FLAGS all over this guy.  He is playing nice now so he can sell on this site.  Don't care what the prices are not worth it for me.
 
Good luck crashingwaves on the purchase.  I hope you get the card.


Posted By: Brandaloo
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:53pm
Wow! $400 is unreal. I remember a similar situation where a guy was selling rd. 1 boxes for around $350. That did not workout well so be careful.

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Posted By: Brandaloo
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:59pm
What about asking for serial numbers on the cards that he is selling? I know the GSP isn't stamped but from the other ones that he has listed he did not put a number with them.  If he lists the serial number than maybe one of us owns it already or know someone that does. 

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Posted By: cockblocks
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 12:41pm

Sounds too good to be true...

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Posted By: matthewevan
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by cockblocks


Sounds too good to be true...


and when does that ever work out well?


Posted By: crashingwaves
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 4:03pm
card is being shipped today......he lives close by so if I dont see it by Tuesday....it will be claim time.
 
will keep everyone posted.


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Posted By: Atreus
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by crashingwaves

card is being shipped today......he lives close by so if I dont see it by Tuesday....it will be claim time.
 
will keep everyone posted.


Good luck. If it works out that's quite the steal.


Posted By: Brandaloo
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 7:40pm
This is going to seem bad but the part that makes me think this is a scam is the intentional use of "god bless" at the end of all his posts. I don't know many people that would put that on the ending of a general post in a public forum like this. It just seemed to me like he was doing that as part of his "scheme."
I could be dead wrong though. I PM'd him asking about some other cards and he hasn't replied so that is a good thing for you Waves. If he was a thief then I'm sure he would have tried to get some money out of me as well.
Either way, I hope that I am wrond about him. Good luck Waves!


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Posted By: cockblocks
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 8:29pm
 
 
I JUST BUSTED THIS GUY.... GO TO THE "I NEED TO SELL QUICK SECTION" then "Jon BONES Jones Round 4 RED INK AUTO"
 
 


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Posted By: Elite
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by crashingwaves

card is being shipped today......he lives close by so if I dont see it by Tuesday....it will be claim time.
 
will keep everyone posted.

I think you may want to take a drive over to his house to get your card if he lives close by


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