Originally posted by Dirtskin Originally posted by crashingwaves Okay... after seeing this other RD 2 red auto listing with a PSA grade of 10... I am confused about PSA grading.  I was under the impression that if the auto ran off the sticker that it was not a '10'   http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Topps-UFC-Round-2-Red-Ink-Auto-ROYCE-GRACIE-11-25-PSA-10-GEM-MT-/251042055453?pt=US_UFC_Trading_Cards&hash=item3a7345c51d   Now, I have never seen a Gracie auto that did not run off the sticker.... but is that a '10' card and auto?  If you look close at Royce's autos they don't actually run off the sticker. It is almost like he stops short and then starts the loop again. I have always thought that was weird. I just sent 3 of his autos in to BGS. We will see how they view it. I think it should be a ten if it does not run off the edge of the sticker.

Even on huge items(posters) he usually leaves a space in between the loops on his Y, but the "knowledgeable" folks at BGS wouldn't know that if they tried.

Originally posted by crashingwaves Okay... after seeing this other RD 2 red auto listing with a PSA grade of 10... I am confused about PSA grading.  I was under the impression that if the auto ran off the sticker that it was not a '10'   http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Topps-UFC-Round-2-Red-Ink-Auto-ROYCE-GRACIE-11-25-PSA-10-GEM-MT-/251042055453?pt=US_UFC_Trading_Cards&hash=item3a7345c51d   Now, I have never seen a Gracie auto that did not run off the sticker.... but is that a '10' card and auto?

If you look close at Royce's autos they don't actually run off the sticker. It is almost like he stops short and then starts the loop again. I have always thought that was weird.

I just sent 3 of his autos in to BGS. We will see how they view it. I think it should be a ten if it does not run off the edge of the sticker.

Okay... after seeing this other RD 2 red auto listing with a PSA grade of 10... I am confused about PSA grading.  I was under the impression that if the auto ran off the sticker that it was not a '10'

Originally posted by lesnar_fan Originally posted by crashingwaves is the '10' grade for the card or just the auto?   I do not have any PSA graded stuff so not sure... thats the grade for the card - not the auto

is the '10' grade for the card or just the auto?   I do not have any PSA graded stuff so not sure...